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Trump's DNI nominee demurs on questions about origins of coronavirus in China

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ByLucien Bruggeman
May 05, 2020, 4:11 PM

At the first major hearing in the Senate since pandemic measures took effect last month, Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas, President Donald Trump’s nominee to lead the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), demurred on the origins of the novel coronavirus in China – a subject of debate within the administration.

Asked during his confirmation hearing before the Senate Intelligence Committee whether he had seen any intelligence to support an unproven theory that the coronavirus emerged from a laboratory in Wuhan, China, Ratcliffe said, “I have not,” before qualifying his answer by saying he had not received a classified briefing in several weeks.

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In a subsequent line of questioning from Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., Ratcliffe said he had not seen intelligence to suggest the disease began in a food market in Wuhan, either.

Rep. John Ratcliffe is sworn in before a Senate Intelligence Committee nomination hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington, May 5, 2020.
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Ratcliffe also said he believes President Donald Trump has accurately conveyed the severity of the virus, in response to a line of questioning from Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif.

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The genesis of the coronavirus in China in late 2019 remains a subject of some disagreement in policy and scientific circles. Some administration officials have publicly advanced the theory tracing the virus’ roots to a laboratory in Wuhan. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Sunday on “This Week” that there is “a significant amount of evidence” supporting that premise, without offering details. During a town hall on Fox News over the weekend, the president suggested the Chinese had “made a horrible mistake and didn't want to admit it.”

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The ODNI itself released a rare statement last week concurring “with the wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not manmade or genetically modified" and announcing that the intelligence community would investigate whether the outbreak was the result of a lab accident.

But others in the administration, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, have expressed skepticism, pointing out that for a lab accident to be the cause, scientists would have had to find the virus occurring naturally in the field, brought it to a lab where samples are inactivated, and then accidentally infected someone.

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Sen. John Cornyn speaks after reading a statement from former attorney general John Ashcroft at the top of a Senate Intelligence Committee nomination hearing for Rep. John Ratcliffe, on Capitol Hill in Washington, May 5, 2020.
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Some of the country’s closest intelligence allies, known as the “Five Eyes,” have also dismissed the lab theory. Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison said Friday, "There's nothing that we have that would indicate that was the likely source.”

Last week, The New York Times reported that allies of President Trump had pressed the intelligence community to find evidence supporting the Wuhan lab theory. The newspaper quoted a former intelligence official as accusing the administration of “conclusion shopping” and politicizing intelligence.

Sen. Richard Burr gives opening remarks at a U.S. Senate confirmation hearing with the Senate Intelligence Committee for Rep. John Ratcliffe on Capitol Hill in Washington, May 5, 2020.
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If confirmed, Ratcliffe said, “the intelligence community will be laser focused” on tracking down the origin of the disease, and dismissed suggestions that his close relationship with the president would taint his ability to advise the administration objectively.

“Anyone’s views on what they want the intelligence to be will never impact the intelligence that I deliver. Never,” Ratcliffe said. “I will deliver the unvarnished truth. It won’t be shaded for anyone.”

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One of the president’s strongest allies on Capitol Hill, Ratcliffe has been nominated to the top intelligence post twice since the previous director, Dan Coats, left government in 2019. Ratcliffe’s first go fizzled out last summer amid bipartisan concern that he lacked the requisite experience.

That concern was exacerbated when ABC News and others reported on inconsistencies and exaggerations in the Republican congressman’s record -- specifically his role in prosecuting a terrorism case he repeatedly cited among his credentials related to national security issues.

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In measured tones, Ratcliffe on Tuesday successfully evaded pointed questions from Democrats and appeased Republicans in assuring he would fulfill the responsibilities of the job without partisan motives.

Rep. John Ratcliffe, President Donald Trump's nominee to be Director of National Intelligence, is escorted by Capitol police officers wearing face masks as he arrives to testify at his U.S. Senate confirmation hearing in Washington, May 5, 2020.
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Asked whether he believes the intelligence community has “run amok,” as the president has said, Ratcliffe said he has “never said that.” Ratcliffe also dodged a question about whether a “deep state” exists within the intelligence community: “I don’t know what that means.”

Democrats remained skeptical of Ratcliffe’s ability to lead the 17 intelligence agencies.

“I don’t see what has changed since last summer, when the president decided not to proceed with your nomination over concerns about your inexperience, partisanship, and past statements that seemed to embellish your record,” Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., the committee’s co-chair, said during his opening statement.

If confirmed, Ratcliffe will take over from Amb. Richard Grenell, who has served as acting director since February. Grenell is the current U.S. ambassador to Germany and another of the president’s loyal allies.

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